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#1 Peewee02

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 01:14 PM

Just want to know some input on what people think on what makes a good pitcher in the upper division?

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 01:22 PM

Ability to field the position and have something different to present to the batters, whether it is different fakes or spins on the ball. Can't just walk up and toss the ball underhand plain as Jane every time, gotta make them see something different.


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 04:11 PM

Be a student of the game. Watch players during your game breaks and learn their tendencies at the plate. Know what they can and can't do. Make bad pitches look like strikes. Pitch the count. Pitch to the strength of your defense. Know which players are most likely to hit solo's and serve them up. Change speeds and levels.

Most importantly field the position/protect themselves.

The guys that do it the best don't do it by mistake. They know the game of softball.
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Posted 25 February 2016 - 05:20 PM

Those are two very good comments and observations by Lynch and Taco.
May I also add, respect the game, the opposing players and you will get the same respect back. There is a reason why Upper level ball ( C and above ) is left for a few players which I always called a fraternity.
Just my .03
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Posted 25 February 2016 - 08:31 PM

Well I have been playing for some time now and have seen a lot of pitchers. I have notice the pitch speed, height, and where you pitch on the mound throws off some people but playing in the upper divisions I don't really see the fakes working as much. Yes, showing respect for the game and players goes a long way also.

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 09:45 PM

I think the higher level you go the less the pitcher comes to matter. Besides the basics of not walking guys and changing a motion, height or speed. It's all about hitting my friend. What team hits more than the other is what matters.

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 08:14 AM

Well I have been playing for some time now and have seen a lot of pitchers. I have notice the pitch speed, height, and where you pitch on the mound throws off some people but playing in the upper divisions I don't really see the fakes working as much. Yes, showing respect for the game and players goes a long way also.

Yeah, I just said it for showing the hitter something. As the hitters move up, they have seen pretty much everything. But it is always nice to show them something "different." But I do agree with you, ability to pitch at different heights is key too. Forgot about that. 



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 06:33 PM

From a coach/sponser of a C and D team I look for my pitcher to :
1. Pitch to his defense
2. Must be a good hitter himself
3. Change of speed/height and arm angle

Having a good knuckleball also doesn't hurt
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Posted 01 March 2016 - 01:14 AM

I was a good hitter when I played. however the most important thing I see a pitcher offering is being tough as nails and leadership. you cant be a pussy. it doesn't matter if you cant hit a lick if you can field and pitch to your defense. 

 

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many many more I cant even remember them all.


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 12:12 PM

Peewee -

 

Knows the game , just as good as anyone else.

 

Pitching is all about, pitching to your defense (5man Def) - fielding the middle

Changing Speeds - Mixing in high/low pitches - Knowing the opposing teams lineup (stronger hitters vs. weaker hitters)

 

Motivating your team by your play and leadership.

 

Earning respect from all -


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 06:59 PM

Nowadays, having nuts of steel. Pitching has become a chuck and duck position. Upper level pitchers square up and know their middle infielder and center fielder have their back

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 02:56 PM

Want to know what is a good pitcher ask (KIKI) he will tell you......


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Posted 07 March 2016 - 11:23 AM

I was a good hitter when I played. however the most important thing I see a pitcher offering is being tough as nails and leadership. you cant be a pussy. it doesn't matter if you cant hit a lick if you can field and pitch to your defense. 

 

johnboy

Musgrave

chicken (oldman)

chickenhawk

Oscar Shipley

shawn jones

many many more I cant even remember them all.

Some more from Fl softball ,Please excuse the spelling and I am forgetting more too, I am old : Tony Elrod , Greg Neal -Shaggy, Geoff Allison ,Jason Von Berg ,Mitch Palatono


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 09:23 PM

sounds like everybody is a pitcher!



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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:49 PM

I think the higher level you go the less the pitcher comes to matter. Besides the basics of not walking guys and changing a motion, height or speed. It's all about hitting my friend. What team hits more than the other is what matters.

I strongly disagree. The higher the level the more it matters for all the reasons One Payment, GorillaBoy 55, and ExtremeG stated. You can't win on a national level in "C" or higher without a good pitcher and I would make the argument that you need two good pitchers. 


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Posted 16 May 2016 - 10:30 AM

ok jusy my .02   leaving out Major's! you know who they are!     Lino Jerry Molloy  Tommy Herman Scotty Mcneill John boy  Shawn Jones  tony elrod!



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Posted 17 May 2016 - 07:20 PM

Elrod, shaggy, Shawn jones, chuck Moore are among the best I've played with/against. But for y'all to leave out the Spider is crazy. I'll play behind him any day

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 04:46 PM

Want to know what is a good pitcher ask (KIKI) he will tell you......

Kiki is a beast!!!




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